Pubs called The Duke of York should not change names, say punters

Punters said pubs called The Duke of York should not have to change their names despite the Queen stripping Andrew of his honorary military roles.

Pub goers have argued that while Andrew holds the dukedom, some pubs hold the title longer than the Queen’s second eldest son.

Meanwhile, some pub owners called The Duke of York have distanced themselves from the current title holder following allegations of sexual abuse against the royal.

Andrew denies all the allegations that have been made against him.

A gastro pub has told the PA News Agency it will decide next week whether to change its name while one of the country’s biggest pub chains insisted its Duke of York pub had no no connection with Andrew.

Poppy Bosher, 29, a music promoter, was drinking at The Duke of York pub in Southwark, south London, with her friend Kristen Malecki, 32, on Friday.

Ms Bosher told PA: ‘I don’t think it’s 100 per cent necessary for pubs to change their names. Pubs have been around for a long time and that’s not Prince Andrew’s name up there.

“I think if the pubs were to change their name it would be a big statement about the claims, but in terms of business I run a business and I think it could be difficult in terms of marketing.

“We didn’t realize its name when we came here – that wouldn’t stop me going to a pub as it’s not related to the pub itself.”

At The Duke of York pub in Victoria, central London, Lawrence Ockleford, 25, a delivery driver, said he also believed establishments should not have to change their names.

The Duke of York, in his role as Colonel of the Grenadier Guards, at a memorial in Bruges in 2019 (Jonathan Brady/PA)

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“It’s just a title. Obviously what he was accused of is not good, but you can’t really erase history,” he said. “I think you shouldn’t glorify him as a person, but you can keep the names.”

His girlfriend, Evie Hinks, 25, a funeral assistant, added: “I see why they would, I think it would be a real shame for them to change their name. More than anything I think he should lose his title All these great pubs and venues, it shouldn’t be up to them because it’s not their fault.

When asked if she would stop going to pubs called The Duke of York herself, she added: “Yes, I would make a considered decision if I go to pubs called The Duke of York.”

Harsh Pal, 32, a medical student who also drank at the pub, said: ‘I don’t think pubs need a name change because the pub itself is an institution when it’s only a person associated with an alleged incident.

“I’ve been in this pub for a decade now – I don’t think you can associate a place or place with a person.”

The Duke of York pub in Victoria, London (Elspeth Keep/PA)

George Cork, general manager of The Duke of York pub in Southwark, said he would not be changing the name of his pub.

“There are no plans to change the name,” he told PA. “The Duke of York has been called the Duke of York for a long time now – this is a title and the original Duke of York from the 1300s.

“Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but it is in no way affiliated with us. The pub has been around for a long time and there are 52 pubs in the UK that probably feel the same way.

“If customers aren’t coming to my pub because of the current allegations, I’m not sure I want them as guests,” he added.

In Marylebone, west London, the manager of the Duke of York Gastropub said there would be a meeting on Monday next week to discuss a possible name change.

“We won’t decide until next week at a meeting between the owners,” the manager, who wished to remain anonymous, told PA.

The Duke of York pub in Southwark (Elspeth Keep/PA)

“It’s a business name change with the bank and on the credit card machines, so it’s not straightforward, but no decision has been made on that yet.”

Greene King, who owns a Duke of York pub in Hanover Square, Westminster, said the pub was not named after the current Duke of York and had been named since the 19th century.

The Duke of York pub in Fitzrovia, central London, bears an image of Andrew and has not removed his connection to the Duke.

The pub declined to comment on Friday whether it would change its name or brand.

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